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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #1
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just a thing that I have found that could improve the ability of hench monks...remove vigirous spirit from mhenlo's bar...it is used so terribly because of the bad AI on it...so thats it..remove it as its so badly used as this could probs help with improving monk hench...not the AI but an improvement in the hench!

this may have been said before but I am about to go to work and haven't got time to check!
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:14 PM // 15:14   #2
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Can't we just have a suggestion saying "Alter the skill bars of every henchmen"?
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18   #3
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Can't we just alter this suggestion to allowing 7 heroes?
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:21 PM // 15:21   #4
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OP: Henches are meant to be kinda weaker than players and heroes. Vigorous spirit is liability, but i can guarantee you, Mhelo as he is is much better than most human or hero monks.

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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #5
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That wouldn't be too bad actually, as I've wanted that option since I got Nightfall. However, I'm still a bit iffy considering henchies don't suffer from DP(which is probably the only good thing about them) and Heores do, unless I'm mistaken?

Edit: Okay, thanks for the clear up. ^_^
And yes, I'd definitely like to see an option for a hero party.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:33 PM // 15:33   #6
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You are. Henchies do suffer from DP.

Wipe once on the boss in HoS, and watch Pyroclastic Blast wipe you in 1 hit if you're a grouped party.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #7
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There's a bug with hero's DP.
Sometimes when a hero has a morale boost, he doesn't suffer from DP the next times he dies. But other then that, yes, they suffer DP
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52   #8
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There's a bug with hero's DP.
Sometimes when a hero has a morale boost, he doesn't suffer from DP the next times he dies. But other then that, yes, they suffer DP
the question was really about henchmen and their DP. with heroes, you probably gave one of them [[death pact]. if the person who was rezzed dies then whoever used DPS dies also but doesn't suffer from death penalty. or maybe they got hit by a boulder or something like that, no DP from those deaths either.

on topic, i definitely think mhenlo could do without vigorous spirit. that skill is one of two reasons i don't take him. the other being he doesn't have aegis on his bar.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 06:00 PM // 18:00   #9
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We really need a way to change Hench bars, yup
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 06:25 PM // 18:25   #10
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imo they should never had added heroes to the game,insted make henchman in to heroes,imagine having mhenlo on your team with your skill bar of choice and equipment of choice
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #11
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imo they should never had added heroes to the game,insted make henchman in to heroes,imagine having mhenlo on your team with your skill bar of choice and equipment of choice
Might as well give Alesia an axe and shield.


Henchmen should have the builds that they have in the Bison Tournament.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #12
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Henchmen should have the builds that they have in the Bison Tournament.
um... ew( i know your being sarcastic btw so am i )
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #13
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Before you complain about the builds in eotn take a look at what they've got in prophecies and factions.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 08:01 PM // 20:01   #14
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Before you complain about the builds in eotn take a look at what they've got in prophecies and factions.
Quoted for epic amounts of truth.

Seriously, I don't like a lot of their bars, but you can't tell me they're not better than they were.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08   #15
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EN builds are an improvement as stated above this post. I do wish that the older bars were improved though. and what was said about henchmen becoming heroes, that would be grand for the 5 henchmen that are in all games (Devona, Cynn, Eve, Mhenlo, Aiden). Make Devona use a sword for once, like in the trailer for Prophecies.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19   #16
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Quoted for epic amounts of truth.

Seriously, I don't like a lot of their bars, but you can't tell me they're not better than they were.
They're better than before. So? Mhenlo in EOTN still has Vigorous Spirit and Orison of healing. And Lina in EOTN has Guardian, but no Aegis. Are we supposed to be happy about that?
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #17
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Can't we just alter this suggestion to allowing 7 heroes?
Or let us build the henches' sklill bars and equipment and make them persistent. :P

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imo they should never had added heroes to the game,insted make henchman in to heroes,imagine having mhenlo on your team with your skill bar of choice and equipment of choice
Ok, I was making a joke, but since you seem serious, the difference between these modded henches and heroes would be...what exactly?
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51   #18
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imo they should never had added heroes to the game,insted make henchman in to heroes,imagine having mhenlo on your team with your skill bar of choice and equipment of choice
ooohh... good idea!!! then imagine changing his name to dunkoro or ogden, or better yet making him a her and calling her tahlkora.
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Old Jun 23, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #19
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It is fine lets not messs with henchies.I would like to see Lina get back Aegis.
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Old Jun 26, 2008, 09:14 PM // 21:14   #20
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just a thing that I have found that could improve the ability of hench monks...remove vigirous spirit from mhenlo's bar...it is used so terribly because of the bad AI on it...so thats it..remove it as its so badly used as this could probs help with improving monk hench...not the AI but an improvement in the hench!

this may have been said before but I am about to go to work and haven't got time to check!
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Use the Hero Ogden which you get as soon as you get to GW:EN.
People bitch about the henchmen too much. Stop being cheap and
setup/use your heros. Its what they are for.

And to joshuarodger....hehehehe,funny,very funny. I cracked on your comment.
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